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2018-19 Major multi-resort passes: Epic, MCP, Ikon
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marzNC - DCSki Supporter
6 months ago

So who got the email today that the Mountain Collective Pass (MCP) is available for $409 for 2018-19?  Almost the same line up as this season, with Big Sky replacing Telluride.

Ikon passes go on sale on March 6.  $899 for the full version and $599 for Ikon Base that makes more sense for folks living in the Mid-Atlantic.  A lot of overlap with the MCP because Ikon is a mix of Alterra resorts and “Partners” who are offering a limited number of days.  Although Deer Valley was bought by Alterra, the Ikon passes only offer limited days at DV.

Epic passes also go on sale on March 6.  As noted elsewhere, there is a new option for Military folks that is a great deal.  The other addition is that Telluride is starting a long term agreement with Vail.  The offer is a limited number of days at Telluride as a perk to Epic passholders.  From what I saw last week, it’s probably a better fit than the MCP.

6 months ago

Who is trying to decide between MCP and IKON?

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
6 months ago

jimmy wrote:

Who is trying to decide between MCP and IKON?

Pretty sure I’m going to stick with the MCP.  Was seriously considering Ikon because I want to go back to Big Sky, but the MCP will cover a return to Taos and all days that I end up skiing at Alta during late season.  Takes too much travel and planning to do really well with Ikon.  Making the drive to Snowshoe is not happening.  I’m too spoiled by trips out west.

Where would you go if you got the Ikon Base?

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
6 months ago

This comparison by Ski Utah is useful for people who like to ski in Utah.  Has a good table that compares the prices all the options for adults, kids, etc.

https://www.skiutah.com/blog/authors/yeti/epic-pass-ikon-pass-mountain

 

6 months ago

Killington. Big Sky. The MCP would be better for Utah because Snowbasin is included but I have never been to Deer Valley. I would probably get to Snowshoe for the first time in a few years. I think that free days at Kton and snowshoe might make the Ikon a better choice for me.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
6 months ago

jimmy wrote:

Killington. Big Sky. The MCP would be better for Utah because Snowbasin is included but I have never been to Deer Valley. I would probably get to Snowshoe for the first time in a few years. I think that free days at Kton and snowshoe might make the Ikon a better choice for me.

Agree that the Ikon Base is good for that combination.  Just noticed that the Pugski Gathering will be at Big Sky.

Spent a day at Killington during early season when I was in the Boston area.  Mostly just to get a feel for the place so that I can make more sense out of the trail map.  Clearly a good place to drive during late season, meaning after mid-March when most people have quit skiing even when the snow is still quite good.

I would get the Ikon if I thought I could make it up to Sunday River and Sugarloaf as part of a trip to Boston.  My daughter has one more year of school there.  But the problem is that if the snow is good because of a storm in March, the driving can be a pain.  In Jan-Feb, it’s just too cold in the NE most of the time.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
6 months ago

I know Epic passes are not as of much interest to many DCSki folks, but still worth noting that Vail just announced long term agreements for Okemo, Sunapee, and Crested Butte.  Another set of places with the same operator/owner that used to be on the MAX Pass.  Get 4/7 days depending on which Epic pass, plus 50% off additional days.

Press release on 3/14/2018

http://news.vailresorts.com/corporate/cbmr.htm

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
6 months ago

Bonzski wrote:

Lets see what Boyne names their pass

https://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2018/03/13/boyne-resorts-ski/421748002/

 

What Boyne Resorts has already is “Boyne Rewards.”  If you spend enough money on season passes, lift tickets, food, and so on, can even use points to buy a season pass.

Boyne has the “New England Pass” for Loon, Sunday River, and Sugarloaf.  Those three are also part of Ikon.  Big Sky is part of Ikon and MCP.  Brighton is part of the SLC SuperPass.  The two Boyne resorts in the midwest are more or less covered by the same season pass, with 50% off on the sister location.

In case anyone cares, Crystal in the PacNW is no longer part of Boyne Resorts.  It’s solely owned by one of the Kircher brothers as of 2017.  John Kircher has been CEO of Crystal ever since he helped buy it for Boyne Resorts in 1997.

Not much will change in the short run with the change in ownership for the six ski resorts.  The question will be what capital improvements happen in the near future now that Boyne has more control.  Hopefully they also have the ability to finance a few big projects besides what is already allocated for Big Sky.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
6 months ago

For parents who are interested in the $1 MCP for a kid, best to buy soon.  That offer usually doesn’t last much past mid-April.  Only one kid MCP for each adult MCP.  First MCP price is $409.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago

MCP at $429 probably will be gone after early July, along with the bonus third day at a pre-selected location.

For those who haven’t decided on a multi-resort pass yet, Alterra just announced the purchase of Solitude.

For a flight to SLC:

MCP: Alta, Snowbird, Snowbasin - 2 days plus 50% other days

Ikon Base: DV, Alta and Snowbird combined, Solitude (TBD) - 5 days

Epic: Park City - depends on which version

3 months ago

You would think Ikon would treat Solitude like the other Alterra-owned properties, which means either unlimited access (potentially with holiday-related blackout dates). But of course we won’t know for sure until they announce something.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
3 months ago

dwm8a wrote:

You would think Ikon would treat Solitude like the other Alterra-owned properties, which means either unlimited access (potentially with holiday-related blackout dates). But of course we won’t know for sure until they announce something.

Agree that unlimited, with or without blackout dates, seems likely for Solitude on the Ikon.  Deer Valley is the only Alterra resort with limited days for Ikon passholders.

The initial plan for Mammoth on the Ikon changed after a major outcry from locals based Ikon Base only included 5 days.  Meaning had to pay for the full Ikon to get unlimited.  Ikon Base ended up unlimited with holiday blackout dates for Mammoth and June.

Still plenty of seniors at Alterra resorts who are annoyed there isn’t a senior rate that provides comparable access to what existed for 2017-18.

23 days ago

Just thought I’d pass this on.

Blue Knob’s offering season pass holders to ANY resort $30 day and twilight tickets (weekday, non-holiday, M-F).  Savings of $13 off the normal $43 ticket.

https://blueknob.com/season-pass-tickets-discounts/

22 days ago

superguy wrote:

Just thought I’d pass this on.

Blue Knob’s offering season pass holders to ANY resort $30 day and twilight tickets (weekday, non-holiday, M-F).  Savings of $13 off the normal $43 ticket.

https://blueknob.com/season-pass-tickets-discounts/

Thanks for the heads up.  This is something a few in my crew will definitely take advantage of.

22 days ago

Blue Don 1982 wrote:

superguy wrote:

Just thought I’d pass this on.

Blue Knob’s offering season pass holders to ANY resort $30 day and twilight tickets (weekday, non-holiday, M-F).  Savings of $13 off the normal $43 ticket.

https://blueknob.com/season-pass-tickets-discounts/

Thanks for the heads up.  This is something a few in my crew will definitely take advantage of.

Seconded. I was hoping for something like this. I wonder why more resorts don’t do this.

22 days ago

wgo wrote:

Seconded. I was hoping for something like this. I wonder why more resorts don’t do this.

Agreed.  I was hoping to get at least a day or two in up at BK this coming season.  This definitely increases the likelihood of it happening.

$30 weekdays makes it even cheaper the Laurel.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
22 days ago

Blue Don 1982 wrote:

Ikon just added 5 days at Taos

5 days with blackout dates for Ikon Base or 7 days with Full Ikon.

Alterra is having fun this week.  Promised two more announcements in the next few days.  There are two more MCP locations that aren’t on Ikon at the moment: Snowbasin and Sun Valley.  Have heard complaints from locals and regulars at those two resorts who are annoyed at the growing numbers of travelers on “their” slopes that used to be relatively empty even on weekends.

The list on the Ikon Compare webpage is certainly getting pretty long.

https://www.ikonpass.com/en/compare-the-ikon-passes

22 days ago

marzNC wrote:

https://www.ikonpass.com/en/compare-the-ikon-passes

I thought this was unique at the bottom of the page - blackout dates broken into hemispheres

Blackout Dates:
**Northern Hemisphere: Dec 26 - 31, 2018; Jan 19 - 20, 2019; Feb 16 - 17, 2019
Southern Hemisphere: July 7 - 22, 2018

 

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
22 days ago

Blue Don 1982 wrote:

marzNC wrote:

https://www.ikonpass.com/en/compare-the-ikon-passes

I thought this was unique at the bottom of the page - blackout dates broken into hemispheres

Blackout Dates:
**Northern Hemisphere: Dec 26 - 31, 2018; Jan 19 - 20, 2019; Feb 16 - 17, 2019
Southern Hemisphere: July 7 - 22, 2018

 

Both Vail Resorts and Alterra are actively going after the Australian market.  So not that surprising that there is mention of blackouts for the Aussie ski resorts (Thredbo, Perisher).  The discussion among the Aussies is interesting because they can choose to buy an Aussie Epic pass or one for N. America.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
21 days ago

Boyne Resorts has clearly joined forces with Alterra.  Announcement for 29Aug adds Boyne locations in the east and midwest.  Big Sky was already on Ikon.  EDIT: Loon, SR, Sugarloaf were in Ikon but as a combined count.  Will be 7/5 for each location for 2018-19.

Boyne Highlands and Boyne Mountain, MI

Loon, NH

Sunday River and Sugarloaf, ME

Summit at Snoqualmie, WA

Cypress, BC

21 days ago

Loon, Sunday River, Sugarloaf now have 7 days each on the full Ikon pass, no black outs and 5 days each with black outs for the base pass.

marzNC - DCSki Supporter
20 days ago

The spin on the Boyne Resorts press release makes it clear that they think Ikon will be good for Boyne.  Certainly means that folks in the midwest have an alternative to an Epic pass.  Assuming they are willing to make the drive to Boyne Mountain or Boyne Highlands in northern Michigan.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/boyne-resorts-to-now-offer-ikon-pass-access-at-nine-mountain-destinations-1027493802

“BOYNE FALLS, Mich., Aug. 29, 2018 /PRNewswire/ — Boyne Resorts today announced partnering with the Ikon Pass to add new and expanded access at its nine mountain destinations across North America for the 2018/19 winter season.

The Boyne Resorts and Ikon Pass relationship was first formed when aligning to include Boyne’s Big Sky Resort in Montana and three New England resorts, Loon Mountain, Sugarloaf and Sunday River on the Ikon Pass. With benefits evident to both partners, Boyne Resorts recently agreed to expand access for Ikon Pass and Ikon Base Pass holders to include Boyne Highlands and Boyne Mountain resorts in Michigan, Brighton Resort in Utah, Cypress Mountain in British Columbia and The Summit at Snoqualmie in Washington. Increased access at the New England resorts was also part of the recent agreement.

“For 70 years, Boyne Resorts has been guided by a focus to create memorable experiences for our guests and we are deeply committed to maintaining the individual character of each of our destinations,” said Stephen Kircher, president and CEO of Boyne Resorts. ”This is what the Ikon Pass is about, so we are thrilled to add our Pacific Northwest and Midwest destinations to the Ikon Pass community. And by increasing access to our destinations in the East, we are excited to offer a variety of winter experiences throughout North America.”

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marzNC - DCSki Supporter
19 days ago

Probably not that popular for DCSki folks, but the price for the Epic pass goes up on Sept. 3.  I think you have to buy Epic passes before some time in November.  Never had much interest, partially because I don’t head to Colorado for skiing because of the relatively high altitude for a lot of lodging.  Have skied at the places around north and south Tahoe, but don’t feel much reason to fly farther to ski in CA/NV during mid-season.

With Squaw/Alpine and Mammoth on the Ikon, a pretty good choice for people who can fit in a late season trip in April or even May. I had fun in early May 2018 checking out Mammoth for the first time using the MCP for a couple days.  By then Heavenly and Northstar are closed. I think Kirkwood closed the earliest of the VR locations around Tahoe.

18 days ago

Good article on ski area consolidation by Gregg Blanchard of slopefillers.com:

https://www.saminfo.com/slopefillers-on-sam/9105-the-marketing-ups-and-downs-of-consolidation-top-pros-and-cons

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