COVID Rules
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cbyrne0609
December 19, 2020
Member since 01/8/2019 🔗
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Hello! 
We live in Maryland and usually do day trips to Whitetail or Liberty. Does anyone know if they are enforcing the PA Covid rules to ski? I can’t imagine getting all 4 of my young kids Covid tests just to ski for the day, although I wouldn’t mind if my husband and I went. 

Looking for feedback before we load all our kids up to go ski over break.

thanks!
camp
December 19, 2020
Member since 01/30/2005 🔗
660 posts
Was in Guest Services today and heard staff tell a customer that they are not checking covid tests (honor system), but there may likely be someone at the entrance checking your reservations.
snapdragon
December 20, 2020
Member since 01/27/2015 🔗
353 posts
Pa's finest...Keystone Gestapo
rbrtlav
December 20, 2020
Member since 12/2/2008 🔗
580 posts

From what I understand businesses are not responsible for enforcing them but law enforcement can and there are fines... I got tested before I went just to be on the safe side. Seems like more of the rapid tests are showing up anyway. 

dukegrad96
December 20, 2020
Member since 10/21/2020 🔗
24 posts
How old are the kids? The test is only required for 12 and over. I got tested with a rapid at the end of the week which covered my trips to Roundtop and Whitetail this weekend.
Goback todc
December 20, 2020
Member since 12/8/2020 🔗
30 posts

What legislation has passed that allows law enforcement to fine you?

rbrtlav wrote:

From what I understand businesses are not responsible for enforcing them but law enforcement can and there are fines... I got tested before I went just to be on the safe side. Seems like more of the rapid tests are showing up anyway. 

FreshPow
December 20, 2020
Member since 01/2/2008 🔗
174 posts
Va resident. Hit Whitetail today for its opener. No one anywhere, in and out, on property or off, asked for proof of a negative test. Saw no one, or evaded anyone, who otherwise would. 

Hope that helps. 
rbrtlav
December 20, 2020
Member since 12/2/2008 🔗
580 posts

If they trace an outbreak back to skiing I’m sure enforcement or closures will come in to play... 

I’m planning on trying to use rapid test to follow the rules even if it’s just across state lines and maybe not the most effective means of mitigation... but to each their own.

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Travelers.aspx

 How is this Order enforced?
The Order is enforceable as a disease control measure under the Disease Prevention and Control Law. The Administration continues to encourage compliance, and expects that, since all people are affected by this virus, everyone will do their utmost to comply.  Persons who fail to comply with the Order may be fined between $25.00 and $300.00 dollars.”

dukegrad96
December 21, 2020
Member since 10/21/2020 🔗
24 posts


Same. I got a rapid that covered a fun weekend of skiing.

rbrtlav wrote:

If they trace an outbreak back to skiing I’m sure enforcement or closures will come in to play... 

I’m planning on trying to use rapid test to follow the rules even if it’s just across state lines and maybe not the most effective means of mitigation... but to each their own.

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Travelers.aspx

 How is this Order enforced?
The Order is enforceable as a disease control measure under the Disease Prevention and Control Law. The Administration continues to encourage compliance, and expects that, since all people are affected by this virus, everyone will do their utmost to comply.  Persons who fail to comply with the Order may be fined between $25.00 and $300.00 dollars.”

dukegrad96
December 21, 2020
Member since 10/21/2020 🔗
24 posts

The Order is an enforceable disease control measure authorized by the Disease Prevention and Control Law.

Goback todc wrote:

What legislation has passed that allows law enforcement to fine you?

rbrtlav wrote:

From what I understand businesses are not responsible for enforcing them but law enforcement can and there are fines... I got tested before I went just to be on the safe side. Seems like more of the rapid tests are showing up anyway. 

Blue Don 1982 - DCSki Supporter 
December 21, 2020
Member since 01/13/2008 🔗
1,587 posts

I read the link above to the PA orders.  We literally live 2 miles from the PA border in OH.  My wife works in PA.

She can go to work (middle school counselor) and deal with all those kids each day. 

We can't go to HV and ski for a day over Christmas break unless we jump thru all those testing hoops. 

Hell, as I read it, we can't visit our grandkids who live 30 minutes away in PA.

These folks have lost their minds.

dukegrad96
December 21, 2020
Member since 10/21/2020 🔗
24 posts


That's why I appreciate our governor (Hogan in Maryland). All travel to border states is exempt. 

But this is also what Vermont is dealing with. Those who live just across the board in NH, NY, or CT, need to quarantine to enter the state.

While the restrictions are difficult, if people would just be smart and avoid spreader events (and yes, that means avoiding family for the holidays unless you have quarantined before and after).

I had a friend who is a teacher. She went to the carribean in August, but she allowed a full 2 weeks to quarantine when she returned to avoid any change to spread a virus if she had it (she didn't). Because there are no uniform public health controls from the federal government, the states are left to fend for themselves.

Blue Don 1982 wrote:

I read the link above to the PA orders.  We literally live 2 miles from the PA border in OH.  My wife works in PA.

She can go to work (middle school counselor) and deal with all those kids each day. 

We can't go to HV and ski for a day over Christmas break unless we jump thru all those testing hoops. 

Hell, as I read it, we can't visit our grandkids who live 30 minutes away in PA.

These folks have lost their minds.

rbrtlav
December 21, 2020
Member since 12/2/2008 🔗
580 posts

Blue Don 1982 wrote:

I read the link above to the PA orders.  We literally live 2 miles from the PA border in OH.  My wife works in PA.

 Whitetail and Liberty are both about 2 miles into PA. When going to whitetail there isn’t even a welcome to PA sign... the road just gets more narrow and lines change. 

FWIW it sounds like if you get tested it’s good until you go over 24 hours without entering the state. Seems like if you got one test and drove that 2 miles everyday you would technically be in compliance without a new test. Hopefully the numbers will drop after the holidays and they can drop the rules...

Blue Don 1982 - DCSki Supporter 
December 21, 2020
Member since 01/13/2008 🔗
1,587 posts

rb you are correct. 

I'll just pass on PA.  HV seems slow to open trails based on another post. 

If I have to spend extra time to get a test, I'll use that extra time to drive to Timberline in WV.  

rbrtlav wrote:

FWIW it sounds like if you get tested it’s good until you go over 24 hours without entering the state. Seems like if you got one test and drove that 2 miles everyday you would technically be in compliance without a new test. Hopefully the numbers will drop after the holidays and they can drop the rules...

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