Have not had a chance to listen to this yet, but I saw this was available and figured I would drop the link here.
on spotify too. awesome podcast. Tom knows his shit for sure
I am not familiar with the "old" or historic names of the glades, but he mentioned areas adjacent to Thunderstruck and I believe Pearly Glades. He also mentioned the area off White Lightning I assume between that and The Drop. I got the impression they really want to address areas that allow tree skiing.
Overall I think it was very positive and optimistic which, honestly, based on what I have seen isn't that surprising. A lot of places could take some lessons from them.
It was clear that Tom Price loves skiing the trees at Timberline when there is enough snow coverage. At the same time, the trail map is deliberately a "functional" trail map that mostly shows trails that have snowmaking and are open far more often than any tree terrain. As opposed to a "marketing" trail map that is set up to maximize the trail count. He worked at Snowbird for a little while. At one point Snowbird renamed a number of trails so that what was one trail became three: Upper, Middle, Lower.
It's was cool to learn that Price grew up skiing and working at Perfect North, plus has experience working at Snowbird and Mad River Mountain in Ohio. It was Chip North who encouraged him to apply for the GM job at Mad River. That was one of the Peak Resorts midwest locations that Vail Resorts got along with Hunter, Okemo, etc.
Nice summary thank you.
I agree Price was polished and on his game. Also think Stuart elevated the renaissance scenario. First I had heard the $20M figure, holy cow!
Impressed by Perfect's discipline to continue focusing on winter, when there is a summer revenue stream awaiting. Hmmm, perhaps the new lift goes in on 200 acres west of Twister for MTB and maybe a couple runs are added over time? Not sure how that connects at the bottom or doesn't but just trying to think out of the box. Perhaps there would be room that way for housing at the base?
I did appreciate the confirmation that trails such as Thunderdraft are still trails even though they are not on the map. Hopefully these will still get a bit of maintenance if needed.
One of the areas mentioned for improving the gladed terrain is to the right of White Lightning. I assume he meant skier's right. It will be interesting to see what is done.
Enjoyed the podcast and glad that the Perfects and Mr. Price are at the helm.
On the beginner terrain issue, let me post an open message to Mr. Price and the Perfects.
There was talk in the podcast about more beginner terrain up top, and I would recommend against that for a lot of obvious reasons.
The lower mountain at Timberline between Sally and Lower Dew Drop has always seems sort of jumbled to me in the sense of being inefficient.
This area is roughly half the size in acreage as compared to Perfect North Slopes (PNS) and Mad River Mountain (MRM) with more or less the same vertical (250-300ft). I have seen first hand how PNS and MRM utilized such terrain efficiently, and in particular using areas as beginner terrain that most DC skiers would not even consider slopes. So the suggestion is erase the current trail map on the lower mountain and start from scratch. I'll wager that the Perfects and Price know more about how to lay this area out for beginners and experts than any other operator in the country.
Heck PNS has a power line running through it if I recall correctly (only skied there once versus 4-5 times at MRM).
Happy that the Perfects and Mr. Price are on board and very respectful of their ski area management experience.
wgo - I was up last weekend, I didn't walk up but I can tell you that from mid-mountain up Thunderdraft has been regraded it appears. Maybe they just ran water and power up there but. I'm hoping it was to better prep the area for snow making.
As I type this, they are running new larger pipes on the top of Thunderstruck over toward Almost Heaven. See webcam