Ski boot flex
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wgo - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago
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What flex do you all have for your ski boots? I've never been a super fast hardcharger so my boots have been on the soft side (95) but I am in the market for a new pair of boots and am thinking of moving up to a 100 or 110.
needawax - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago
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I like it around 100.  I've always been a believer that the boot is key to how things go down on the snow.  On the other side of that, I do adjust throughout the day, depending on how warm it gets in these parts, and I will crank up the buckles accordingly.  

I do like the ability to push the shins into the boot down to the toe, so I do like flex and maybe just a little slop in the boot in general.  A boot shouldn't feel uncomfortably tight, nor should it feel like a typical shoe. 

wgo - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago
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The ski shop I spoke with has a couple options for my size at both 90 and 100. 90 may be a bit on the soft side but OTOH I guess may help with pushing my shins into the boot, which I something I realized I do not always do as much as I should especially on moguls or steeps. And honestly my old 95 flex boots were packed down so much that even a 90 flex may be a bit more stiff. I'll see what I can tell when I try them on.

SKI-PSU
29 days ago
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I ski a 130 given I want maximum contact/impact but I also formally ski raced. Boot tech has come so far that stiff boots are now exceptionally comfortable compared to what existed 10-15 years ago. 

As a related topic - I love the BOA system so far on my Salmon S/Pro Supra BOAs

Stephen
29 days ago
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Height and weight are a big part of what determines the best flex.  Numbers thrown out there without those specs don't mean much.  I'm 5'11" 165 pounds, and I use the number 8 tongue on Full Tilt classic.  I think that corresponds to 110.  Full Tilt comes with the 6 tongue, so I started with that, but it was definitely too soft for me.  People from every aspect of skiing tend to cover the full range of philosophies when it comes to flex.  You can find mogul skiers that use very stiff boots like racers tend to use, but that's really the exception, not the rule.  On average, mogul skiers use softer flex than racers, but not too soft.  I think 110 is pretty common for someone of my size.  If you're bigger, then you'd need more.  If you're smaller, then you'd likely want less.  There's an optimum amount of flex in the boot for a turn style, and because it's a spring, that is directly dependent on weight and leverage. 
wgo - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago
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That's actually very useful. I am a similar weight (170 lbs) but several inches shorter (5'7")

marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago
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wgo wrote:

What flex do you all have for your ski boots? I've never been a super fast hardcharger so my boots have been on the soft side (95) but I am in the market for a new pair of boots and am thinking of moving up to a 100 or 110.

 My understanding is that flex numbers are only relative for a given brand.

How old are your boots?  When my liners packed out on my previous pair of boots, I replaced them with Intuition liners.  Not only did that mean new liners, it also increased the functional flex for those shells.  I moved those Intuition liners to my current boots when the stock heat-moldable liners packed out after a few seasons.  Since I also replaced the heel and toe sole pieces, have been able to keep those boots for a longer time.

Recently replaced the power strap with something invented by a boot fitter from Vermont.  That was an experiment that has worked out well.

needawax - DCSki Supporter 
29 days ago (edited 29 days ago)
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The boot shouldn't feel uncomfortably tight, otoh, it shouldn't feel "roomy." "Comfort" is a subjective thing. I've had insanely cheap dalbellos (kinda sloppy) that have worked wonders for me, and also Salomons that were more rigid - that I also liked.   Beyond that, you're talking about numbers wrt bootmakers and their brands.  If you can't throw some pressure efficiently to the tongue of the boot from your shin with a decently snug fit, you aren't "using" the boot.  That said, I have blown out many footbeds from teaching.  Once that happens, I typically start again with a new pair of boots.  I don't do much surgery on boots. 
Leo
28 days ago
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  This can definitely be true.  I replaced my boots last season and went with the K2 Recon 130 -- they are perfect for me, but if you skied them blindfolded you would never ever say they were 130.  That boot is probably a bit of an outlier from that standpoint.

marzNC wrote:

wgo wrote:

 My understanding is that flex numbers are only relative for a given brand.
wgo - DCSki Supporter 
28 days ago
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I have heard that K2's tend to be on softer size so it makes sense that the 130's would maybe have a bit more flex than expected based on the numbers.

@Marz - lets just say my boots are old enough that they definitely need to be replaced and leave it at that

needawax - DCSki Supporter 
28 days ago
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A lot of people get hung up on boots (brands, price, etc) - and that's not to say that they aren't important, they are at least as important as the ski you choose/use for sure.  But I've often found that price and build technology often don't translate directly to the performance or comfort you expect.  Sometimes you just hit a great fit and no problemo.  Could be a $700 boot or a $1200 boot.  
wgo - DCSki Supporter 
28 days ago (edited 28 days ago)
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I went with the Salomon S/PRO Supra Boa, 100 flex. Made the drive from Charlottesville to the Richmond Ski Center to try them on and buy them. The guy I bought them from actually recognized my last name from when he used to work at Public Lands in Charlottesville and was at Snowbird the same week I was there so it was fun talking to him about that.


wgo - DCSki Supporter 
28 days ago
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Would be nice to try them out this season but I can't make it out this weekend. Hopefully timberline or someone has a surprise season extension next weekend. Or I guess Camelback is staying open later this year...
marzNC - DCSki Supporter 
27 days ago (edited 27 days ago)
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wgo wrote:

Thanks for the responses everyone. I went with the Salomon S/PRO Supra Boa, 100 flex. Made the drive from Charlottesville to the Richmond Ski Center to try them on and buy them. The guy I bought them from actually recognized my last name from when he used to work at Public Lands in Charlottesville and was at Snowbird the same week I was there so it was fun talking to him about that.


Congrats on finding boots locally.

Did you make an appointment with a boot fitter or did you just go when it was convenient?

wgo - DCSki Supporter 
26 days ago
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I called ahead to the 5 possible places within an hour or so of Charlottesville to check for inventory and price. Based on that I decided on the Ski Center in Richmond and made arrangements to drive out Friday afternoon to try on a a couple pairs. Now I just need to figure out if I can swing a day up at Blue or Camelback.

All of this would have been easier if our ski shop in Charlottesville hadn't closed a few years ago but that is a topic for another thread.
kwillg6
24 days ago
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I've moved to the Atomic Hawk Ultra 100 and last season it was great but I'm 25 pounds lighter this season at 150.  If the weather is warm they flex fine but on colder days not so much.  Due to the boot construction and plastic used, softening the boot is an issue according to Greg at Ski Boot Fitters who is one of the best.  If I don't bulk up some, I'll look at another boot for next season, probably a Dalbello which I used to ski.  I might do a little notching on my own possibly.... At 74 YO I hate to go to the expense of a new boot. 

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