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curih
January 31, 2011
Member since 02/18/2008 🔗
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I'm finally going to get to go out to Canaan Valley next weekend and it's going to fricken rain this week. Aaaaaaaaah!
KeithT
January 31, 2011
Member since 11/17/2008 🔗
383 posts
This happened to me last year between MLK and the weekend thereafter. On the bright side, I think there will be upslope this week, which I did not have the benefit of.
snowglobe
January 31, 2011
Member since 03/12/2007 🔗
150 posts
In the same boat here! Going there this weekend too! How does the weather looking after a major rain this Tuesday/Wednesday? Will the snow after that be enough to make up for the rain?
KeithT
January 31, 2011
Member since 11/17/2008 🔗
383 posts
I think there is hope, here is a portion of the latest discussion from NWS Sterling:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
1238 PM EST MON JAN 31 2011

.

.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/...
THERE WILL LIKELY BE A PERIOD OF UPSLOPE SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS THE
WESTERN SLOPES OF THE HIGHLANDS WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY.

HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE REST OF THE AREA THURSDAY INTO
FRIDAY...THEN THE GFS AND ECMWF SUGGEST THAT A STORM MAY IMPACT THE
REGION FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY.
JohnL - DCSki Supporter 
January 31, 2011
Member since 01/6/2000 🔗
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Quote:
Will the snow after that be enough to make up for the rain?


Very doubtful by this weekend, but this is apparently a tough storm to predict. NWS point forecast is all messed up due to technical glitches, but the one for Davis, WV earlier today had 0.5-0.75 inches of rain on Tuesday! *If* they get that amount (this appears to be a borderline storm), it would eat up a looooot of snow, but the trails with large MM snow bases would still be open. Looks like there could be a some recovery storms this weekend and next week.

This is the East.
kwillg6
January 31, 2011
Member since 01/18/2005 🔗
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JohnL, did you and some others hit bald knob as planned? I was curious if it was as good as anticipated.
Abe
January 31, 2011
Member since 11/14/2008 🔗
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Hmm... I'm also headed over to the valley this weekend, definitely bummed that they're going to get rain rain out of this storm. I'm still cautiously hopeful about conditions though - I imagine they'll have some upslope snow after the storm swings through and then there's another shot at snow with a coastal type storm that's a possibility for the weekend.

Keep your fingers crossed!
JohnL - DCSki Supporter 
January 31, 2011
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Quote:
JohnL, did you and some others hit bald knob as planned?


(Quick side-track.) No. From checking out the snow at T-Line Sunday AM, it was clear that the route we were thinking about would have degraded due to sun exposure and warmth. We need to talk about some possible T-Line (and CV) side country shuttle days later on this year if we still have a base like last weekend. Need some specific route info from you and your son. Got some interesting info.
fishnski
January 31, 2011
Member since 03/27/2005 🔗
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I'll be up at canaan myself (couldn't get away last week cry) & have been watching this system with interest since I have an 8 hour drive.
The lakes are freezing over so the lake enhanced upslope snow will be limited..2 to 3 inches on the backside? but then i've been watching the models the last few days that seem to be trying to pull a coastal closer in to the coast for sat which NWS is starting to mention in the f-cast discusions...Keep hope alive that a layer of ice & sleet will protect the base for awhile before the rain comes down & then some freshies to coat the mess & then maybe a few more inches for sat if we can get the low move closer. I think it will be allright smile
curih
January 31, 2011
Member since 02/18/2008 🔗
177 posts
Here's hoping.
JohnL - DCSki Supporter 
February 1, 2011
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Fuggly. mad

Davis, WV NWS point forecast:
Today: Rain, mainly before 2pm. High near 39. South wind between 7 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

Tonight: Rain. Low around 34. South wind between 9 and 18 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Wednesday: Rain before 2pm, then snow showers. Temperature rising to near 39 by 10am, then falling to around 23 during the remainder of the day. Windy, with a southwest wind 16 to 19 mph increasing to between 25 and 28 mph. Winds could gust as high as 41 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Wednesday Night: Snow showers. Low around 12. Wind chill values as low as -4. Windy, with a west wind between 23 and 30 mph, with gusts as high as 44 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%.

Whitmer, WV NWS point forecast:
Today: Freezing rain and sleet likely before 11am, then a chance of freezing rain between 11am and noon, then a chance of rain after noon. Cloudy, with a high near 36. South wind around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Total daytime ice accumulation of less than a 0.1 of an inch possible. Little or no snow accumulation expected.

Tonight: Rain, with thunderstorms also possible after 4am. Low around 36. Breezy, with a south wind 6 to 9 mph increasing to between 20 and 23 mph. Winds could gust as high as 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Wednesday: Rain showers before noon, then a chance of rain and snow showers between noon and 1pm, then a chance of snow showers after 1pm. Temperature falling to around 21 by 5pm. Windy, with a west wind 15 to 18 mph increasing to between 25 and 28 mph. Winds could gust as high as 41 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of around an inch possible.

Wednesday Night: Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a low around 6. Wind chill values as low as -14. Windy, with a west wind between 24 and 32 mph, with gusts as high as 49 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%.
snowglobe
February 1, 2011
Member since 03/12/2007 🔗
150 posts
Keeping fingers crossed for a lot of snow on Wednesday's night into Thursday and also Saturday! Bring it!
KeithT
February 1, 2011
Member since 11/17/2008 🔗
383 posts
Originally Posted By: JohnL
Cloudy, with a low around 6. Wind chill values as low as -14. Windy, with a west wind between 24 and 32 mph, with gusts as high as 49 mph.


Very nice. Good night to camp out at the Sods or MPC.
David
February 1, 2011
Member since 06/28/2004 🔗
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Originally Posted By: KeithT
Originally Posted By: JohnL
Cloudy, with a low around 6. Wind chill values as low as -14. Windy, with a west wind between 24 and 32 mph, with gusts as high as 49 mph.


Very nice. Good night to camp out at the Sods or MPC.


Especially if you can get your tent set up before the rain. I nice layer of ice on the tent would provide loads of insulation... wink
snowglobe
February 1, 2011
Member since 03/12/2007 🔗
150 posts
So any report about damage from the rain from those in the valley?
fishnski
February 2, 2011
Member since 03/27/2005 🔗
3,530 posts
Originally Posted By: fishnski

The lakes are freezing over so the lake enhanced upslope snow will be limited..2 to 3 inches on the backside? but then i've been watching the models the last few days that seem to be trying to pull a coastal closer in to the coast for sat which NWS is starting to mention in the f-cast discusions...Keep hope alive that a layer of ice & sleet will protect the base for awhile before the rain comes down & then some freshies to coat the mess & then maybe a few more inches for sat if we can get the low move closer. I think it will be allright smile


I'm still thinking we will be allright smile

NWS F-Cast 4000' WV Mountains....
Today: A chance of rain and snow showers before noon, then snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a temperature falling to around 14 by 4pm. Wind chill values as low as -8. Windy, with a west wind between 34 and 38 mph, with gusts as high as 49 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Tonight: Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a low around 3. Wind chill values as low as -17. Windy, with a west wind between 29 and 34 mph, with gusts as high as 49 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Thursday: A chance of snow showers, mainly before noon. Cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny, with a high near 18. Wind chill values as low as -19. Breezy, with a west wind between 15 and 24 mph, with gusts as high as 37 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Thursday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 10. Wind chill values as low as zero. West wind between 8 and 11 mph becoming calm.

Friday: A slight chance of snow after 4pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 36. West wind between 9 and 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Friday Night: Snow and sleet likely, mainly after 4am. Cloudy, with a low around 25. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

Saturday: Snow and sleet likely, becoming all snow after 9am. Cloudy, with a high near 35. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Saturday Night: A chance of snow showers. Cloudy, with a low around 19. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Lower 70's today down south here in the carolinas.. cool

JohnL - DCSki Supporter 
February 2, 2011
Member since 01/6/2000 🔗
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Most important stat: Dave Lester is reporting 14" base (from a peak of 23" on Saturday.) That is still a solid base.
David
February 2, 2011
Member since 06/28/2004 🔗
2,444 posts
Originally Posted By: JohnL
Most important stat: Dave Lester is reporting 14" base (from a peak of 23" on Saturday.) That is still a solid base.


I was thinking the same thing. That .63" of rain must have been scattered throughout most of the day. Good news!!
snowglobe
February 2, 2011
Member since 03/12/2007 🔗
150 posts
Seem like both Canaan and Timberline are almost 100% open still!
Great news!

By the way, I am planning to go to both Canaan and Timberline this weekend. Based on the current condition, snow in the forecast on Fri/Sat and I hear that Canaan seem to rely on natural snow more, does it make sense to hit Canaan on Sunday then? Any suggestions about which on to go on Sat/Sun would be appreciated.
JohnL - DCSki Supporter 
February 2, 2011
Member since 01/6/2000 🔗
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Originally Posted By: David
Originally Posted By: JohnL
Most important stat: Dave Lester is reporting 14" base (from a peak of 23" on Saturday.) That is still a solid base.


I was thinking the same thing. That .63" of rain must have been scattered throughout most of the day. Good news!!


More important stat. Alta is reporting a 122" base. cool grin laugh
curih
February 2, 2011
Member since 02/18/2008 🔗
177 posts
Originally Posted By: JohnL
Most important stat: Dave Lester is reporting 14" base (from a peak of 23" on Saturday.) That is still a solid base.


"solid" is kind of what I'm worried about.
David
February 2, 2011
Member since 06/28/2004 🔗
2,444 posts
Originally Posted By: JohnL
Originally Posted By: David
Originally Posted By: JohnL
Most important stat: Dave Lester is reporting 14" base (from a peak of 23" on Saturday.) That is still a solid base.


I was thinking the same thing. That .63" of rain must have been scattered throughout most of the day. Good news!!


More important stat. Alta is reporting a 122" base. cool grin laugh


I hate you. Thanks for cheering me up with that one. I think I'll go ride my mountain bike today.
KeithT
February 2, 2011
Member since 11/17/2008 🔗
383 posts
BK is closed today because of the ice storm. I am very thankful I made it up to BK this last weekend, and TL the weekend before that, not epic conditions but really really good.

Plenty of winter left despite what Phil says.
fishnski
February 2, 2011
Member since 03/27/2005 🔗
3,530 posts
Thar she Blows!!..another mini N'easter for Sat...

http://www.met.sjsu.edu/weather/models/gfsone-12/sfc5f96.gif

JohnL is a Richard Head..U Mudda!! frown
Abe
February 2, 2011
Member since 11/14/2008 🔗
366 posts
Hmm... I wonder if we'll be able to stay on the all-snow side of that storm over in CV. Gonna be a close call!
SCWVA
February 2, 2011
Member since 07/13/2004 🔗
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The Dolly Sods cam is showing snow and its 22F. smile
fishnski
February 2, 2011
Member since 03/27/2005 🔗
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Originally Posted By: Abe
Hmm... I wonder if we'll be able to stay on the all-snow side of that storm over in CV. Gonna be a close call!


I know...there seems to be 3 players in this setup & its a crap shoot as to which one scenerio takes control. looks like it could be a little wet real early Sat morn & then as the "Mini" storm takes shape it goes all snow & there could be a decent Coating to wake up to Sun morn....BUT..If I were a betting Man & after experiencing Beaucoup Canaan weather in my past i'd bet any wet would be shortlived (If any at all) & the snow will fall all day Sat/Sat eve.
curih
February 3, 2011
Member since 02/18/2008 🔗
177 posts
Anyone up in the valley want to chime in? Tline official reports says 3" after the rain.
Abe
February 3, 2011
Member since 11/14/2008 🔗
366 posts
Well shoot... Dave's weather site is only reporting 1.7" and its looking more likely for the weekend storm to spit out mixed precip.

Looks like rumors of a late next week are already floating around wink Keep hope alive!

Abe
February 9, 2011
Member since 11/14/2008 🔗
366 posts
Well, it looks like we're missing out on the storm that was supposed to hit tomorrow - but I see the valley picked up almost 9" of snow out the last storm. Man I wish I could have been up there yesterday!
David
February 9, 2011
Member since 06/28/2004 🔗
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Was at Snowshoe this morning and they didn't get more than 2-3". It's crazy the differences in the Valley and Snowshoe this year. Snowshoe is saying they're at 125" this year while CV is nearing 170". As always, Canaan Valley is the place to be!!
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